Non-steamed steampunk guns

[Steampunk Away]

Very nice!

[RJBowman]

I just found this:

[Will Howard]

I just found this:

Sikhs- Steampunks in Turbans!

[RJBowman]

Detailed enough photos to build a prop replica:

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Dyson LePetit Protector Ring Pistol

[Xenos]

Detailed enough photos to build a prop replica:

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Dyson LePetit Protector Ring Pistol

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I don't want a "prop" of that...  In the competitions I go to, they have a "Pocket Pistol" or "Belly Gun" category, derringers and pea-shooters like that...

THAT would win some SERIOUS style points, even if it lost the actual competition (much like my mate what wears a "Huckleberry" chest rig to carry his strong-hand firearm; not so great on speed (and dear GOD, you should see him "do the 170 degree crossdraw dance!")), but still!

[Keith_Beef]

I don't want a "prop" of that...  In the competitions I go to, they have a "Pocket Pistol" or "Belly Gun" category, derringers and pea-shooters like that...

THAT would win some SERIOUS style points, even if it lost the actual competition (much like my mate what wears a "Huckleberry" chest rig to carry his strong-hand firearm; not so great on speed (and dear GOD, you should see him "do the 170 degree crossdraw dance!")), but still!

I had to go googling to find out what a "Huckleberry" chest rig looks like. I incidentally found this:

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[Captain]

I don't want a "prop" of that...  In the competitions I go to, they have a "Pocket Pistol" or "Belly Gun" category, derringers and pea-shooters like that...

THAT would win some SERIOUS style points, even if it lost the actual competition (much like my mate what wears a "Huckleberry" chest rig to carry his strong-hand firearm; not so great on speed (and dear GOD, you should see him "do the 170 degree crossdraw dance!")), but still!

I had to go googling to find out what a "Huckleberry" chest rig looks like. I incidentally found this:

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[Siliconous Skumins]

Mod hat on.

I have removed one recent post as it broke forum rules regarding guns. Specifically it broke the rule about modern firearms, as it was a homemade replica - thus newer than the general cutoff period of 1911.

Original period homemade weapons are allowed, as long as they predate 1911 in manufacture.


Please keep posts (reasonably) within the forum rules.

SS

[Kevin1632]

I will try again, grin.

My earlier post was probably too bare bones in information. The rifle in question is a black powder, percussion cap ignition, breach loaded chamber rifle. One of my co authors (Gorg Huff) used it in the "Kremlin Games" (Baen 2012) It is based around the Hall rifle from 1819 and uses a breach block that is cam locked in to the action.

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This block fits in to the body of the rifle and allows the fire arm to be reloaded in the prone position.

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Thus the rifle pictured. If you look closely you can see the chamber block slightly rotated out from the body of the action.

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When finished the rifle will also have an eighteen inch bayonet. You know, just incase I get charged by cavalry.

Regards,
Kevin

[Fairley B. Strange]

[Typing quickly in case it fades into the aether again]

Very nice work, and a great idea bringing some of the more inventive early desiigns back to life.

Smooth or rifled?

[Prof Marvel]

My Good Kevin -
Your rifle is a rather nice home-built interpretation of the less-well-known Hall Rifle of 1819, originally designed with just such a swinging breech but in percussion....

yhs
prof marvel

[Kevin1632]

Thanks all,

I built his to demonstrate the concept for its use in the 1632 story cycle. I will have it with me at Marcon.

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http://marcon.org/wordpress/

That is, next month, May 9-11, 2014. A far as I know the convention has a range day associated with it and I will be there until the range closes, or we run out of powder, caps, and shot. Grin.

As a side note the 1632 Ring of Fire series, has turned in to one of the most active shared universes in publication. we currently have over seven million words of paid for published fiction, with more than 140 authors involved. Yearly we have a track at a convention, to coordinate, to date we are almost one hundred percent in continuity.

My wife and I have a novella coming out in "Ring of Fire IV" from Baen in 2015.

Regards,
Kevin

[Will Howard]

Detailed enough photos to build a prop replica:

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Dyson LePetit Protector Ring Pistol

I just noticed that there are two different guns depicted here (although obviously of the same type).  The arm featured in the spoilers is a six shot revolver, while the one in the video is a five shot revolver.  Were both made by the same company?

[Kevin1632]

Here is the completion shot.

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everything but the barrel and the sling were made in my home shop.

Specifications,

.50 cal.
44 inch barrel
breach loading
Percussion cap ignition
black powder

It is a variation on a theme of the breach loading long rifles from 1800 - 1911, notably the Hall.

It took about forty actual hours of work, (spread over six months) and about $250.00 in materials.

Regards,
Kevin

[Eldrock]

My latest acquisition: Denix metal non-firing replica sawed-off shotgun.









Chris

[Kevin1632]

Karen and I went out today and fired the rifle. It was a very productive day. we started with partial charges wadded with paper, and worked our way up to full military loads pushing lead.

Mechanically the rifle worked very well, the block cartridges mount and un mount well, load easily, and are very robust.

There is some leakage from the seal, evidenced by carbon build up on the block faces. No smoke or gases can be seen to escape, the seal is eight to twelve inches from the shooters face, no emissions were detected when firing.

Using eighty grains of FFF pyrodex, and a two hundred fifty grain lead ball, projectile drop was about one foot at three hundred yards range. (I was hitting about two feet from the bottom of the back stop, while firing from a shooters table. The table was about three feet in height.)

On the down side, I never did hit my target, grin, perhaps the installation of sights might help. In fairness I should say I only attempted two aimed shots, with the rest of the days firing dedicated to safety evaluations of the mechanism.

I also tested the stock to destruction, the wood used was not up to the shock generated from firing. The stock broke at the front where the receiver is mated to the wood. The stock is repairable, and will, with reinforcement, be ready for the con.

All along I have planed to re stock the rifle with a prime hardwood, and used a lesser wood to ease rapid prototyping.

Photos will be added as soon as Karen can get them e mailed to me.

Regards,
Kevin

[JeffOYB]

I'm pretty sure I NEED that C96..

PS: Hi akumabito... What's the top pistol in your signature? It's amazing!

[D.Oakes]

Leaving this here.....



http://www.forgottenweapons.com/experimental-german-0818-maxim-smg/

[Will Howard]

Leaving this here.....



http://www.forgottenweapons.com/experimental-german-0818-maxim-smg/

A Mauser 712 & a MP18 got dropped into a blender & this came out...

[Argus Fairbrass]

I don't recall these being featured in the thread so far. Some rare and rather splendid LeMat carbines. Apparently there's something of a cottage industry to convert existing functional replicas. Something for the aspiring modder to consider perhaps.

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Quite a good article here.

http://www.forgottenweapons.com/lemat-revolving-carbine/

[Keith_Beef]

It's a still from Соловей-Разбойник ("Nightingale the Robber") starring Ivan Okhlobystin.

Thanks. 

I just found a trailer for the film on YouTube.

TRAILER Соловей-разбойник

[Argus Fairbrass]

I must confess I downloaded the whole thing from Youtube. Unfortunately it's all in Russian with no English subs, neither can I find an English subbed version on disk at the moment. Still it seems like a suitably entertaining highly stylised action flick, just wish I knew what the hell was going on.  

A note on the guns he's using. They don't get a huge amount of screen time, but given the apparent lack of blowback it seems the props are actually dummy guns. Marushin have made several versions of the M712 Schnellfeuer. Some dummies, some airsoft and some PFC (Plug Fire Cartridge) model gun versions, which is the one I'm looking to acquire. Considerably less powerful than blank firers, but similar in that they don't actually fire anything. However they do blow back, eject dummy shells and generally give the appearance of functioning like the real thing.

Marushin Mauser M712

[Keith_Beef]

I must confess I downloaded the whole thing from Youtube. Unfortunately it's all in Russian with no English subs, neither can I find an English subbed version on disk at the moment. Still it seems like a suitably entertaining highly stylised action flick, just wish I knew what the hell was going on.  

My Russian is by now quite rusty (and was never really great, anyway), so I'm on the lookout for a DVD with at least English subtitles...

I've seen a file purporting to be English subtitles, so if all else fails I might bite the bullet, buy the Russian DVD (region 5) for $7 and merge it with that subtitle file.

[Argus Fairbrass]

That's a good idea, I forgot you can download subtitles as well. Ah the wonders of the digital age.

Anyway back to the mechanical age, a good article on the Burgess folding shotgun, rather nifty.

http://www.forgottenweapons.com/burgess-folding-shotgun/

[JeffOYB]

A marvelously steamy activity has to be RELOADING AMMO. Blackpowder or smokeless, it falls under the Steam timeframe coz it's been done forever. (OK, some calibers are new.) But talk about tinkering and apparatus! I bet there is COOL BRASSY STUFF out there! Special storage boxes...

I'm looking forward to getting into it as a meditative activity AND a way to save money AND a way to make my guns work JUST RIGHT in a variety of ways (sometimes fun going low-power, for instance, as well as dialing in for accuracy).