Non-steamed steampunk guns

[JeffOYB]

I can't believe a search for THIS gun comes up empty here. It's sweet! ...A timeless classic of ingenuity. (I'magonna get one!)

http://www.marblearms.com/gamegetter.html

http://gamemedia.wcgame.ru/data/2011-07-16/marbles-1908-gamegetter-pic.jpg

And I have an article on my own website about it, too: http://outyourbackdoor.com/article.php?id=1137

[JeffOYB]

The Remington Model 8 also hasn't been mentioned that I noticed. It's in the Steam timeframe. Tons of Steamy vibe to it. I've always enjoyed the industrial look of it. It was the first rifle I used for deer hunting!

http://www.guns.com/2012/09/12/remington-model-8-browning-semi-automatic-sporting-rifle/

[Prof Marvel]

My Dear Netizens
In the past We have discussed several of the American Cap&Ball revolvers - the Remington Model 1858 (aka New Model Army) the Colt models 1851, 1860 et al ... and many are familiar with these models. Whilst these 7 and 8 inch barreled revolvers have their place as holster pistols for soujourns into the Jungle and Field,  I have always admired the "snubbies" and found them most handy when tucked under a frock-coat or tails, and sufficiently efficacious against Brigands, Louts, Pirates, and Cut-Purses in and about town. ( Get Down Edith!)

I have finally  gotten off my duff become motivated, knocked back most of the honey-dos , and actually gotten the infernal machine digital camera to talk to my confusictor. Thus I offer for your consideration, my rendition of

Firstly, a brassframed  Remington 1858, in .44 cap-and-ball , cut down to 4 inches and given a slightly rounded grip:



then  a 2" Steel Framed Remington 1858 in .45 Colt ( My homage to the Monster Snubnose .45 Webleys ),  with modifications to the grip, trigger guard,  modified cylinder pin, sculpted front of the frame, and a soldered-on higher front site blade.





here are both, just for comparison



Finally my brass Colt 1860 .44 cap-and-ball "avenging angel" with a 3" barrel, 1/2 dime front site, and bird-head grip.



So far I have only tested them for function and have yet to fire full loads. However I am quite certian that with a full load of 35-40 grains of Black Powder topped by a lead pill , out of such a short barrel, the ball of fire projecting from my fist is likely to have sufficient impression!

yhs
prof ( ball o' fire ) marvel

[Kevin1632]

Sorry about the delay, it is a rifled barrel, cut rifling, very nicely done by "Green Mountian Barrels".

Regards,
Kevin

[Typing quickly in case it fades into the aether again]

Very nice work, and a great idea bringing some of the more inventive early desiigns back to life.

Smooth or rifled?

[Kevin1632]

Again sorry for the delay, Real Life tm. intruded.

The trip to the convention was fun, and we had some great presentations. Marcon is the best event we have been to in many years, the staff and program were superb, much fun was had by all.

When we returned home work and family ate up my attention, hence the delay.

On to the photos.

This is a short video of me firing the rifle, scroll way down. It is an mp4.

http://s570.photobucket.com/user/Thorgierr/media/VIDEO0002-20140504-225440.mp4.html

Here is a still if the vid does not work.

http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss146/Thorgierr/IMAG0191-20140504-225227.jpg

As I said the stock cracked, this is the new stock being cut to shape, I burned up two saws all blades...
http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss146/Thorgierr/IMAG0222.jpg

The wood is pecan, and seems just softer than cast iron.

Here is the shaping process, I am using an angle head grinder with a 25 grit sanding disk.

http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss146/Thorgierr/IMAG0221.jpg

This is me in my alternate identity as sawdust man...

http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss146/Thorgierr/IMAG0223.jpg

Lastly here is the mostly finished stock next to the cracked prototype.

http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss146/Thorgierr/IMAG0225.jpg

As you can see, the new stock is much more robust, and should take an oil stain nicely. Now that I have the rifle, I am thinking that a freezer full of elk would be nice, grin.

Regards,
Kevin

Karen and I went out today and fired the rifle. It was a very productive day. we started with partial charges wadded with paper, and worked our way up to full military loads pushing lead.

Mechanically the rifle worked very well, the block cartridges mount and un mount well, load easily, and are very robust.

There is some leakage from the seal, evidenced by carbon build up on the block faces. No smoke or gases can be seen to escape, the seal is eight to twelve inches from the shooters face, no emissions were detected when firing.

Using eighty grains of FFF pyrodex, and a two hundred fifty grain lead ball, projectile drop was about one foot at three hundred yards range. (I was hitting about two feet from the bottom of the back stop, while firing from a shooters table. The table was about three feet in height.)

On the down side, I never did hit my target, grin, perhaps the installation of sights might help. In fairness I should say I only attempted two aimed shots, with the rest of the days firing dedicated to safety evaluations of the mechanism.

I also tested the stock to destruction, the wood used was not up to the shock generated from firing. The stock broke at the front where the receiver is mated to the wood. The stock is repairable, and will, with reinforcement, be ready for the con.

All along I have planed to re stock the rifle with a prime hardwood, and used a lesser wood to ease rapid prototyping.

Photos will be added as soon as Karen can get them e mailed to me.

Regards,
Kevin

[W. S. Marble]

My Dear Netizens
In the past We have discussed several of the American Cap&Ball revolvers - the Remington Model 1858 (aka New Model Army) the Colt models 1851, 1860 et al ... and many are familiar with these models. Whilst these 7 and 8 inch barreled revolvers have their place as holster pistols for soujourns into the Jungle and Field,  I have always admired the "snubbies" and found them most handy when tucked under a frock-coat or tails, and sufficiently efficacious against Brigands, Louts, Pirates, and Cut-Purses in and about town. ( Get Down Edith!)

I have finally  gotten off my duff become motivated, knocked back most of the honey-dos , and actually gotten the infernal machine digital camera to talk to my confusictor. Thus I offer for your consideration, my rendition of

Firstly, a brassframed  Remington 1858, in .44 cap-and-ball , cut down to 4 inches and given a slightly rounded grip:



then  a 2" Steel Framed Remington 1858 in .45 Colt ( My homage to the Monster Snubnose .45 Webleys ),  with modifications to the grip, trigger guard,  modified cylinder pin, sculpted front of the frame, and a soldered-on higher front site blade.





here are both, just for comparison



Finally my brass Colt 1860 .44 cap-and-ball "avenging angel" with a 3" barrel, 1/2 dime front site, and bird-head grip.



So far I have only tested them for function and have yet to fire full loads. However I am quite certian that with a full load of 35-40 grains of Black Powder topped by a lead pill , out of such a short barrel, the ball of fire projecting from my fist is likely to have sufficient impression!

yhs
prof ( ball o' fire ) marvel

I cannot think of a more worthy piece than the 1858 Remington.  Two of my tiny arsenal of six are 1858's (a brass Pietta and a steel Uberti); and I have snubbed these to about one inch, along an 1849 Colt (Uberti) as well.  There is also a conversion cylinder and barrel insert available to fire cal .22 LR rounds through the Remingtons!  Even the weaker brass frame created by the Confederates out of desperation can accommodate the rimfire round.  My ultimate goal is to weather the brass frame once I have finished filing and polishing, to display an antique patina (at which time I shall try to brave a photo).

I especially admire the way you further compacted those grips--very imaginative variations of the parrot's beak you have invented here!

[Paisley Pirate]

I still go back to my old favorite (and my personal sidearm at most Steam symposiums).

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you:  The Randall Custom Winchester M1892  Mare's Leg. 

This example is an airsoft gas version. But it is a documented piece from the correct era. Originally in 45/70, and you can buy a modern redux of it in that same caliber or in several modern calibers (made by Rossi, btw).

[Captain]

[Cpt. Vanderstorme]

I have some nice non steampunked steampunk guns aswell, will try posting pics of them later!

[akumabito]

You can show us your guns any time..

[CPT_J_Percell]

You can show us your guns any time..

I do believe that innuendo bingo is on wednesday

[akumabito]

You can show us your guns any time..

I do believe that innuendo bingo is on wednesday

Oh darn it, came too soon again... 

[Argus Fairbrass]

You can show us your guns any time..

I do believe that innuendo bingo is on wednesday

Oh darn it, came too soon again... 

Spoiler: ShowHide

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr1p4KtgOXc

Good Lord, you can tell it's the summer allright!

Anyhoo, I'm just posting this because I think it's interesting looking. With all the little greeblies it look like a Steampunk/Sci Fi mod, but actually it isn't.



Colard Double Action Pinfire.

[Mme. Ratchet]

So, I've posted about it before, but I just love talking about it <3. I recently (a few months ago) purchased a Nepalese Gahendra rifle from IMA to clean up and restore. I have pictures of it that I've posted elsewhere, and can re-post if desired. I'm still working on cleaning it up, and it's currently totally dis-assembled, but it has been verified safe to shoot, and as soon as I get the parts it's missing, it will also be included as part of my persona! If anybody has questions on them, feel free to ask. A fair bit of mis-information is about, so be careful with what you find!

[Kevin1632]

Finshed,

Here is the rifle on the tailgate of my Element.

Spoiler: ShowHide

Now off to the range.

Regards,
Kevin

[Rory B Esq BSc]

I've just been reading up on the trench mortars of WW1, Two designs are quite Steampunk, the small brass ones made from used shell cases and the pneumatic ones that used compressed air to fire a bomb over a mile not bad for an air gun (how feasible would a steam version be)?

Some of the other designs wouldn't look out of place as steampunk weapons, especially when firing an over caliber 'aerial torpedo' with large fins.

But the ultimate 'Non-steamed steampunk gun' would be a railway gun with a suitable locomotive to pull it.

[Will Howard]

You can show us your guns any time..

I do believe that innuendo bingo is on wednesday

Oh darn it, came too soon again... 

Then don't DARE ask to see his ammunition!

[Mme. Ratchet]

But the ultimate 'Non-steamed steampunk gun' would be a railway gun with a suitable locomotive to pull it.

Or 6. And several supply trains and 4 sets of tracks to support it all!

[Mme. Ratchet]

So, this isn't exactly from the correct time period (hopefully I don't get shot over this! ) but I thought this looked like a fairly steamy gun. Made in 1958, and it's for sale, if you've got the coin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7me_z0Qdcs

[Fairley B. Strange]

Interesting.
Given that its only date is the 1958 catalog, it could be older.
In operation - short recoil (-ish) action and rotary magazine it reminds me of the M1941 Johnson rifle.

[Will Howard]

So, this isn't exactly from the correct time period (hopefully I don't get shot over this! ) but I thought this looked like a fairly steamy gun. Made in 1958, and it's for sale, if you've got the coin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7me_z0Qdcs

Looks like it might be the ancestor of- or inspiration for- Mal's gun in Firefly.

[Argus Fairbrass]

First patented in 1910 by Franz Pfannl. The first video I've ever seen of the 2.7 mm Kolibri. Isn't it bizarre how a gun can be almost cute (I still wouldn't want to get shot in the eye with it though).

World's Smallest Pistol - 2.7mm Kolibri at RIA

[Cpt. Vanderstorme]

Can't seem to get the focus to take the pics, so here's them guns in action:

[Steampunk Away]

 Those are fantastic! Where did you get them?

[RJBowman]

First patented in 1910 by Franz Pfannl. The first video I've ever seen of the 2.7 mm Kolibri. Isn't it bizarre how a gun can be almost cute (I still wouldn't want to get shot in the eye with it though).

World's Smallest Pistol - 2.7mm Kolibri at RIA

This pistol is smaller: