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Started by James Harrison, April 28, 2019, 05:13:51 PM

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James Harrison

April 28, 2019, 05:13:51 PM
Our previous "clubhouse" being now utterly, completely and officially packed to the rafters, I've taken out a long-term let for ourselves on the empty plot next door. 

Please do come in, see what we are up to, and share your own model making projects.  There are no rules, within reason, as to what is and isn't permissible. 





Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

Banfili

#1
April 29, 2019, 01:25:03 AM
Your 100th page on the last thread didn't reach the terminus - it was cut a little bit short! However, I have a ticket for this thread, and will continue enjoying the journey!

The Bullet

#2
April 29, 2019, 07:20:43 AM
*climbs aboard, pushes the toolbox under the seat*

There is one rule:
Show pictures, no matter if pro or beginner. Any project is worth showing.

Ongoing projects:

-finishing 5" gauge Taigatrommel
-finishing 5" gauge Prussian P3.1
-finishing 5" gauge armoured railcar
-plannung 5" gauge Prussian six-wheeled compartment coach (unique because this little thing has all four classes in it)
-various O-gauge projects

Just cleaned the arboured railcar after the "excursion" using a pressure washer to get the grass off.
(see last thread).
Continued work on the flaps. They are ready to install. Finished the MG stands, trial fit was successful.
Cut the bits for the protective collar around the turret base. Ready to install.

Pics will follow.

BTW, who issues the new membership passes?
*hand in the expired one*
If brute force does not work....you´re not using enough of it.

Madasasteamfish

#3
April 29, 2019, 10:30:59 AM
Quote from: The Bullet on April 29, 2019, 07:20:43 AM
BTW, who issues the new membership passes?
*hand in the expired one*

I believe that would be Mr Harrison, this is his excursion after all....

*returns to reading kit instructions*

PHOWWR! Look at the pistons on this one...
I made a note in my diary on the way over here. Simply says; "Bugger!"

"DON'T THINK OF IT AS DYING, JUST THINK OF IT AS LEAVING EARLY TO AVOID THE RUSH."

James Harrison

#4
April 29, 2019, 08:04:41 PM
Maybe we need an enamel pin badge or something to identify members to each other. 

As one society I'm a member of explains, 'please do not return membership passes as we have no means of returning them'.  Merely keep up the subscription and the pass remains valid.  (ie- keep shoing us what you're working on!)

Right, this last weekend.  Nothing got built yesterday (Sunday) as I was out perhaps breaking my car, as it seems to be leaking... something.... today.  But Saturday I finished off Cremorne & Pittance with a new barrow crossing and painting the edges.  So now the general plan is to continue with locomotive and rolling stock construction and restoration.  The difficulty is, where locos are concerned, where to begin...
Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

The Bullet

#5
April 29, 2019, 09:05:45 PM
Did a bit today.

Railcar has received the tank filler cap, front and rear mg stands.
Then I cut 2mm hex plastic bar to slices (fake nuts).
Problem: once separated from the bar when the knife goes through, they fly everywhere.
Need to find a method to keep enough on the bench.
I also fitted the protective collar round the turret base.
Made fixtures for the flaps.

Not too much visible progress but something at least.

An Enamel badge would be fine.
If brute force does not work....you´re not using enough of it.

The Bullet

#6
April 30, 2019, 06:55:16 AM
As promised, some pictures:

Tank filler cap protector:


MG stand:




Turret collar:


Time to put it on the lifting table and fit the flaps to the lower end of the skirt.


If brute force does not work....you´re not using enough of it.

Madasasteamfish

#7
April 30, 2019, 05:09:46 PM Last Edit: April 30, 2019, 05:11:17 PM by Madasasteamfish
Quote from: James Harrison on April 29, 2019, 08:04:41 PM
Maybe we need an enamel pin badge or something to identify members to each other. 

Well, that would be nice... think we should contact Herr Doktor and have him do some with the next round of the BG rings?

Quote from: James Harrison on April 29, 2019, 08:04:41 PM
As one society I'm a member of explains, 'please do not return membership passes as we have no means of returning them'.  Merely keep up the subscription and the pass remains valid.  (ie- keep shoing us what you're working on!)

Well, since you asked here's what I'm working on;

My LMS Royal Scot Kit is about 85-90ish% done, the body just needs one or two final bits before its ready for the paint shop, and a little bit of fiddling to make it fit on the chassis squarely. The chassis itself needs a visit to the paint shop and testing (as it's from an RTR model of a completely different loco it's needed more than a little bit of modification, including removing some electrics. A process which involved taking pretty much the entire d*mn thing apart before putting it back together again >:() before I'm happy to declare it done.

And over the weekend I started this beauty:


A complete (including etched brass chassis and motor) K's kit for an LMS black 5. It's coming along, but might hang on before looking to the chassis as all my kit builds so far have been mounted on RTR chassis. And since I have a Wills Kit for a GWR King class I bought partly assembled which included a matching brass chassis which was put together I think that might be a better project to cut my teeth on....
I made a note in my diary on the way over here. Simply says; "Bugger!"

"DON'T THINK OF IT AS DYING, JUST THINK OF IT AS LEAVING EARLY TO AVOID THE RUSH."

James Harrison

#8
May 01, 2019, 08:30:09 PM
Quote from: Madasasteamfish on April 30, 2019, 05:09:46 PM
Quote from: James Harrison on April 29, 2019, 08:04:41 PM
Maybe we need an enamel pin badge or something to identify members to each other. 

Well, that would be nice... think we should contact Herr Doktor and have him do some with the next round of the BG rings?


How many would we need?/ could we shift? 

I mentioned it tongue-in-cheek but if there is sufficient interest in a badge then it's something that would merit investigation. 
Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

The Bullet

#9
May 01, 2019, 09:07:56 PM
*raises hand*
If brute force does not work....you´re not using enough of it.

Madasasteamfish

#10
May 01, 2019, 09:55:24 PM
Quote from: The Bullet on May 01, 2019, 09:07:56 PM
*raises hand*

Well, that's 3 there then.
I made a note in my diary on the way over here. Simply says; "Bugger!"

"DON'T THINK OF IT AS DYING, JUST THINK OF IT AS LEAVING EARLY TO AVOID THE RUSH."

James Harrison

#12
May 02, 2019, 07:08:49 PM
I'll have to do some research how many would need to be sold to make it cost effective.
Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

Madasasteamfish

#13
May 02, 2019, 08:35:41 PM
Quote from: James Harrison on May 02, 2019, 07:08:49 PM
I'll have to do some research how many would need to be sold to make it cost effective.

Well, if you do the casting/etching yourself.....
I made a note in my diary on the way over here. Simply says; "Bugger!"

"DON'T THINK OF IT AS DYING, JUST THINK OF IT AS LEAVING EARLY TO AVOID THE RUSH."

The Bullet

#14
May 03, 2019, 09:24:13 AM
Quote from: Madasasteamfish on May 02, 2019, 08:35:41 PM
Quote from: James Harrison on May 02, 2019, 07:08:49 PM
I'll have to do some research how many would need to be sold to make it cost effective.

Well, if you do the casting/etching yourself.....

I guess we have some experts in that field on the forum.
We can call out a design challenge.
Let´s put a notice in the clock tower pub and see who takes the challenge.

Requirements for the design challenge:

-cost effective
-matching the style
-no "silly" things (like rods technically inpossible configuration)
If brute force does not work....you´re not using enough of it.

James Harrison

#15
May 03, 2019, 07:00:02 PM
Quote from: Madasasteamfish on May 02, 2019, 08:35:41 PM
Quote from: James Harrison on May 02, 2019, 07:08:49 PM
I'll have to do some research how many would need to be sold to make it cost effective.

Well, if you do the casting/etching yourself.....

Quote from: The Bullet on May 03, 2019, 09:24:13 AM
Quote from: Madasasteamfish on May 02, 2019, 08:35:41 PM
Quote from: James Harrison on May 02, 2019, 07:08:49 PM
I'll have to do some research how many would need to be sold to make it cost effective.

Well, if you do the casting/etching yourself.....

I guess we have some experts in that field on the forum.
We can call out a design challenge.
Let´s put a notice in the clock tower pub and see who takes the challenge.

Requirements for the design challenge:

-cost effective
-matching the style
-no "silly" things (like rods technically inpossible configuration)


Homebrew casting and etching are beyond me but a drawing or design challenge would be a good 'un to go for. 
Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

James Harrison

#16
May 04, 2019, 12:43:43 PM


Another for the 'small, far away' file.  Replicars 1904 Mercedes.  Again, a nice little kit that went together quite well, it just needs some (well, a lot) of final painting now. 
Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

James Harrison

#17
May 05, 2019, 11:24:50 AM
I have, finally, gotten around to looking at the ballast brakevan which will complete my engineer's train. 

The little Mercedes was finished and the corridor brake third was still tacky from being teaked, so it was this or nothing...

Anyway, from my 'Big Book of LNER wagons' by Peter Tatlow, (actually, LNER Wagons Volume 1- Southern Area [Great Northern, Great Central and Great Eastern Railways] by Peter Tatlow), this is what I am aiming for. 



A few months ago I made a start on this by cutting up a Hornby 4-wheel carriage chassis, most of the work was removing about 3/4 of the footboards down each side and the brake handles. 



Then the couplings came off too. 

There are no drawings of the brakevan in the book, so I'm relying just on the one photograph and measurements taken off my other models to make sure it's approximately to scale. 

Out came some 0.5mm plastic sheet.  I've found that clay sculpting tools can also be used to scratch or carve into plastic, so the joints between the boards have been scratched in. 





Now to paint it before glazing and roofing. 
Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

James Harrison

#18
May 05, 2019, 08:15:48 PM
Amongst other projects; Hednesford No.1 Shop stirs!  After a hiatus of 15 months, I conducted a survey of available motive power today and the news was Not Good.  Pretty much the entire loco roster requires work of some description; some big projects, some small. 

The quickest way to rectifying this, I see, is to look at some of the smaller projects.  And my main issue with a lot of the engines is the quality of the lining, in particular on the cab sheets (in other words, the most difficult bit). 

Now, with the layout being set just after WWI, I can get around that... GCR goods engines from 1915 or 1916 were painted in plain, unlined black.  Those that didn't need repainting from pre-war days quickly got so dirty that the lining was obliterated....

So right now I have a pair of small tender locos in the works.  #792, which was finished a few years ago, is being weathered.  Another member of the same class is being restored to 1919 condition- a new chimney and a repaint. 

Then I have four more small goods locos to look at, but numberplates for only two of them.  I think since I last put in a bulk order for numberplates the loco stud grew unexpectedly, I think there are probably four or five locos at least in need of them.  So a bulk order to be put in-soon? 

Lots of work around anyway...
Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

Madasasteamfish

#19
May 06, 2019, 06:37:27 PM
Well, over the course of the bank holiday weekend I've been doing various bits and pieces, including painting my royal scot...


Still a fair bit to do but, now the paints on it's taken a large leap forward.
I made a note in my diary on the way over here. Simply says; "Bugger!"

"DON'T THINK OF IT AS DYING, JUST THINK OF IT AS LEAVING EARLY TO AVOID THE RUSH."

James Harrison

#20
May 06, 2019, 07:24:46 PM
Lovely work! I've been finishing a carriage and weathering a freight loco. It's definitely getting the caked in coal dust look now.
Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

The Bullet

#21
May 10, 2019, 06:33:33 AM Last Edit: May 10, 2019, 03:17:41 PM by The Bullet
Hope to get something done this weekend.
Finally decided on a running number for the Taigatrommel.
During their service many modifications were implied.
I wanted one that was delivered with the number plates having a white frame. The rest of the modifications had to match.
So it is going to be V200 026, later renumbered to 120 026-0 in 1970 broken up in 1991.

Not much progress as the workshop is blocked.
A friend brought lots of radio equipment, a lot of bar stock steel arrived, it's all in the way.
Time to tidy up.

I also received spares for my Wimshurst machine. Bought it years ago, never had any sparks.
Maybe this weekend....


UPDATE:
We have sparks! It works!
Wimshurst machine now sits on the shelf next to Van der Graaf generator, Ruhmkorff machine, Jacobs ladder and "a few" tesla coils.
(don´t ask me what caused the problems....*facepalm*)
If brute force does not work....you´re not using enough of it.

James Harrison

#22
May 10, 2019, 07:02:41 PM
Weekend!  Plans.

1. GCR ballast brake.  Proceed with the paintwork and construction. 
2. GCR 9H x2.  The completed one- finish the weathering.  The unfinished one- err, give it it's GCR identity!
3. GCR coal wagons?- I have eight of them to build....
Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

James Harrison

#23
May 11, 2019, 10:41:16 AM
You want weathering?  You got it...







That's one of my to-do list items checked off.  Also last night, the ballast brake got it's top coat of grey paint and one of the coal wagons was begun.  Four more coal wagons were then bought....

This morning one of my heavy mineral engines (a ROD 2-8-0) was brought out of storage for inspection with a view to getting it finished.  I bought it, about 90% built and in grey undercoat, on Ebay for a song a few years ago.  It does need work- the smokebox door is on upside down, it has the wrong safety valves and it lacks couplings, buffers, handrails, a livery of any kind or Wstinghouse brake cylinders- but it looks like a fairly easy win. 

Meanwhile- where's that other 9H I was looking at last weekend?
Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

James Harrison

#24
May 11, 2019, 12:04:18 PM
I am roughing out a vague plan of sequence of works for my locomotives with the criteria for listing being

- Do I have parts/ paints available to hand
- How much work is required/ how quickly can it be turned around
- How long has it been waiting for attention

So the rough list at the moment is

- 9H # 972 (weathering, finished)
- 9H # 828 (repaint in post-1916 GCR black and weathering- under way)
- 9J # ? (repaint in post-1916 GCR black and weathering)
- 9J # ? (ditto)
- 8A # ? (ditto)
- ROD #5 (new safety valves, fitting of brake cylinders, couplings, buffers, paint into circa 1920 GCR black) [This is the engine I dug out this morning]
- 1B # 340 (heavy weathering, cleanup of chassis and securing of same to body)
- D #1151 (ditto)
- 18 Converted #154 (ditto)
- 9J # ? (repaint in post-1916 GCR black and weathering, needs numberplates ordering)
- 9J # ? (ditto)

Well, that's nine locos I can be looking at straight away- eight if you exclude the one I've just finished- plus another two that need numberplates and (not shown here) proposed future construction.  I can't make my mind up, either an LDEC 0-6-0 tank or a Robinson 0-6-0 dock tank, one or the other but not both right now.  At least one of the 9F 0-6-2 tanks (I have three of those in various states of disrepair) should also be a dedicated freight loco.   

That little list right now gives me a pair of heavy mineral engines - an 8A 0-8-0 and a ROD 2-8-0 - six 0-6-0 tender locos (two Pollitt 9H class of the mid-1890s and a quartet of Robinson 9J class of 1901 onward) - two six-coupled heavy goods tank engines (1B 2-6-4 of 1915 and D 0-6-4 of 1906), and an archaic 0-6-0 shunter of the 1880s, a rebuild of an earlier 1860s 0-6-0 tender loco...

Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.
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