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The Brassgoggles Model Making Club (the second non-SP model making thread).

Started by James Harrison, April 28, 2019, 05:13:51 PM

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James Harrison

Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

chironex

No gel ball ban in WA! http://chng.it/pcKk9qKcVN

QUEENSLAND RAIL NOT FOR SALE!!!!!!

Sir Henry

Those are glorious, chironex!
I had to do a double-take on the bookshop to confirm that it wasn't the one from Black Books, so close.
I speak in syllabubbles. They rise to the surface by the force of levity and pop out of my mouth unneeded and unheeded.
Cry "Have at!" and let's lick the togs of Waugh!
Arsed not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for tea.

James Harrison

Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

Justin Time

Have you never wondered what it would be like to walk between the ticks and tocks of Time?

Sorontar

I gave my wife the kits for flavor kitchen and the miller's garden for Xmas, but she hasn't had time to make them yet. We generally spend a lot of time running up to Xmas making themed Xmas trees so our creative energies (and fingers) get worn out. Last year it was Doctor Who (with a weeping angel on top). We have also done Red Dead Redemption, Harry Potter, Stars Wars, and Steampunk (and probably ones I have forgotten) so far.

Sorontar
Sorontar, Captain of 'The Aethereal Dancer'
Advisor to HM Engineers on matters aethereal, aeronautic and cosmographic
http://eyrie.sorontar.com

James Harrison

I've had an expensive week, two pre-orders arrived simultaneously....



To James, Happy Christmas 2021 from Mom and Dad

Well, this one wasn't expensive for me at least. 

The other preorder was mailed to my parents so I'll be showing that one tomorrow when I pick it up. 
Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

Madasasteamfish

Quote from: James Harrison on February 17, 2023, 05:38:46 PM
I've had an expensive week, two pre-orders arrived simultaneously....



To James, Happy Christmas 2021 from Mom and Dad

Well, this one wasn't expensive for me at least. 

The other preorder was mailed to my parents so I'll be showing that one tomorrow when I pick it up.
]

Drools enviously..... ;D

I think I could certainly justify one for Dukeswood, what with their eventual allocation to the Bradford area.....

Now where did I put my credit card?
I made a note in my diary on the way over here. Simply says; "Bugger!"

"DON'T THINK OF IT AS DYING, JUST THINK OF IT AS LEAVING EARLY TO AVOID THE RUSH."

James Harrison

I'd suggest popping your head round the door of RMWeb, where people are discussing the pros and cons of the model. 

Mine looks fairly presentable, some people are reporting 'banana-ing' of the body around the bunker (mine's got that a bit, but it's not exactly noticeable unless you specifically go looking for it).  Also reports of wheels not being square to the axles on the bogie and pony truck, some have little marks/ scuffs on the paint, and some are saying that their engines don't like less-than-perfect trackwork. 

I can't comment on that last point because I haven't run it (and I don't think this will be a layout model, there is no way on Earth my skills with transfers and paintbrush could compare with professional tampo printing so I'm not going to run it with my own scratch/ kit-built/ customised RTR stock), but I would just note that it was a trial to get all wheels onto the rails on a length of R609 (third-radius [505mm / 19.9"]) curved track. 

Someone summed it up best by saying 'a good purchase if you couldn't build better yourself'. 

As I say though, very happy with mine, I think I got a good one. 
Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

James Harrison

Ah.  Yes.  The other purchase. 





A very, very nice generic 6-wheel carriage in Great Northern Railway livery.  I'll be repainting it into Great Central - either a darker teak / mahogany (post-1908) or pre-1908 brown and cream.  These same carriages are going to be released in Great Central livery in the next batch, but for some reason the shop that's commissioned them has said they will be the 1897 - 1903 brown and French grey colour scheme.  This of course makes perfect sense when all the Great Central engines that you could go to a shop and buy today date from 1903 to 1921.  Maybe they think the brown and cream looks too similar to the Great Western livery and the mahogany / teak too close to the Great Northern, London North Eastern and London Brighton & South Coast colours.   

And why is this expensive? 
Err, because I bought seven of them...
Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

The Bullet

New addition to the fleet:



Needed a bit of maintenance, now she´s running.
I just have to find a replacement dome.

The steam tractor (you may remember) has received a new outer boiler shell and is in the final stages of reassembly. I used the main engine yesterday to put the replacement rope on the winch drum (about 10 metres).
If brute force does not work....you´re not using enough of it.

Madasasteamfish

Well, quarantine has led to me working towards another of my tasks for the year. Specifically my intermediate station.

As I may have mentioned previously it started life as this:
https://peco-uk.com/collections/wills/products/country-station-with-platform

Now, it's about 90ish% complete, and I've done a fair bit to try and "improve" it using these reference photos of the prototype as inspiration, albeit without actually altering the overall outline of the kit building.





I'll see about posting some photos in the next couple of days, and I do intend to supplement it with a 'double pavilion' style waiting room for the opposite platform
I made a note in my diary on the way over here. Simply says; "Bugger!"

"DON'T THINK OF IT AS DYING, JUST THINK OF IT AS LEAVING EARLY TO AVOID THE RUSH."

Madasasteamfish

Well, as promised, pictures...although it's quite crude and nowhere near finished I think it shows off my "improvements" reasonably well.





The main attempts to improve the kit have mainly been a matter of decoration (in order to pick out the mortar lines) and using brickwork sheets rather than the tiled finish included in the kit. Although I'm sure anyone with a background in architecture might object to the quoins, I've found them useful for hiding the joins and add a certain solidity to the appearance.
I made a note in my diary on the way over here. Simply says; "Bugger!"

"DON'T THINK OF IT AS DYING, JUST THINK OF IT AS LEAVING EARLY TO AVOID THE RUSH."

Madasasteamfish

I've also got around to working on the 1st step of working on my mircro.

I've had the low relief buildings sat waiting to be fixed into position for weeks now, but finally forced myself to do it. They've been an interesting little project and introduced me to the possibilities for 3D printing with the hobby, although the stars would have to align before I found myself investing in one.
I made a note in my diary on the way over here. Simply says; "Bugger!"

"DON'T THINK OF IT AS DYING, JUST THINK OF IT AS LEAVING EARLY TO AVOID THE RUSH."

James Harrison

Quite like what you've done with that station kit.   It's got something of the appearance of the MSLR/ GCR stations in Lincolnshire (eg Brocklesby).
Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

Sir Henry

Quote from: Madasasteamfish on February 26, 2023, 12:45:34 PM
[snip] ... and introduced me to the possibilities for 3D printing with the hobby, although the stars would have to align before I found myself investing in one.
You may well have a Hackspace/Makerspace near you where you could avail yourself of a 3d printer without having to buy one. It's worth asking.
I speak in syllabubbles. They rise to the surface by the force of levity and pop out of my mouth unneeded and unheeded.
Cry "Have at!" and let's lick the togs of Waugh!
Arsed not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for tea.

Madasasteamfish

Quote from: James Harrison on February 26, 2023, 01:51:00 PM
Quite like what you've done with that station kit.   It's got something of the appearance of the MSLR/ GCR stations in Lincolnshire (eg Brocklesby).

Thank you very much. Admittedly my decision to use it was based on the appearance of the relevant prototype buildings as they currently exist rather than these historic photos but as I've said before I'm trying to model the 'Dukeries' with Dukeswood (South Yorkshire/North Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire towards West Lincolnshire, where the MSLR/GCR and MR met and had the L&YR and GNR sniffing around the peripheries) without actually specifying an exact location.
Quote from: Sir Henry on February 26, 2023, 04:18:36 PM

Quote from: Madasasteamfish on February 26, 2023, 12:45:34 PM
[snip] ... and introduced me to the possibilities for 3D printing with the hobby, although the stars would have to align before I found myself investing in one.
You may well have a Hackspace/Makerspace near you where you could avail yourself of a 3d printer without having to buy one. It's worth asking.

It's a possibility, but whilst 3d printing seems an interesting option for various bits of rolling stock and buildings, it's not my only one. Whilst it would save me some labour (especially if it saves me having to learn CAD) for what I want, I could just as easily bodge/kitbash them (or do something akin to the half-scratch build of this station kit).
I made a note in my diary on the way over here. Simply says; "Bugger!"

"DON'T THINK OF IT AS DYING, JUST THINK OF IT AS LEAVING EARLY TO AVOID THE RUSH."

Madasasteamfish

Well my spurt has continued...

Specifically on my experiments for my war department train.
Spoilered for length:
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In my efforts to achieve a feel of the protype without actually specifying a location I decided I wanted to include a train hauling an outsize load, or some other piece of heavy engineering. Now whilst I knew Vickers Armstrong and camel llaird both had works in the area they used to build bits of their battleships (mostly armour plate, boilers, guns, drive shafts and propellers), and ruston-bucyrus was also based in Lincoln. In the process of researching appropriate loads I also discovered that Vickers was originally a Sheffield firm. This led to 2 separate ideas for said train. One was a large naval gun carried on one of the LNER's gunsets (2 specialist bolster wagons built specifically for the purpose) the other was a rake of machinery wagons carrying tanks or similar armoured vehicles built by Vickers. The problem however, is that the gunset would have to be scratchbuilt almost entirely (and I don't feel confident enough in my abilities to attempt that). Now, whilst the tank train would be easier (since I can use off the shelf kits) there aren't many inter/early war tank designs (which vickers were mostly involved with) available in an appropriate scale (most of them are either out of production or aimed at tabletop wargamers).


So here's the results of my experiment:


The first is a dapol lowmac I've sort of back dated to LMS condition (I still need to get the appropriate transfers) and "enhanced" with a full wooden deck.

I've also (after some difficulty) sourced some appropriate tanks (albeit at 1:72 scale since 1:76 isn't favoured by wargamers).


And here's the two together


In all honesty I'm not satisfied (there's too much daylight showing under the hull and it looks awkward sat on the wagon). But whilst I can still use the lowmac I'm considering my options going forward.
I made a note in my diary on the way over here. Simply says; "Bugger!"

"DON'T THINK OF IT AS DYING, JUST THINK OF IT AS LEAVING EARLY TO AVOID THE RUSH."

James Harrison

Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

The Bullet

Steam tractor has received a new outer boiler shell.
The old one was FUBAR, as it was only 0.5mm brass and patched up in many places.
New one is 2mm copper. This will hold some pressure.
It will spend most of its time on my 5"gauge Loriot wagon.
I just had to repair it as it has a three-speed gearbox, lockable differential and a winch.
Pics to follow as soon as I have the first test run.
If brute force does not work....you´re not using enough of it.

The Bullet

One picture of it sitting on the Loriot:


The Bing for Gamages loco is running now. She just needs a proper tender:


If brute force does not work....you´re not using enough of it.

James Harrison

Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

SeVeNeVeS

If you don't mind can I ask our modelers a question?

What is the best primer paint for plastic, widely available in the UK? I've rubbed with rough sandpaper to create a key but the paint I used peels off with a scrape of a fingernail.

It's 110mm plastic pipe eventually to be painted with VHT engine cellulose paint.

Any suggestions gents? Many thanks.

Edit. anyone used this befoe? https://www.halfords.com/motoring/paints-and-body-repair/primer/halfords-plastic-primer-grey-spray-300ml-456855.html

James Harrison

I personally haven't used that primer, however there are people on a model railway forum I post on that swear by it. 
Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

SeVeNeVeS

Quote from: James Harrison on March 12, 2023, 08:41:26 AM
I personally haven't used that primer, however there are people on a model railway forum I post on that swear by it.
Good enough for me, will give it a go....... Thanks James.