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Started by James Harrison, April 28, 2019, 05:13:51 PM

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James Harrison

Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

James Harrison

Shaping up to be an expensive month;

- Painted samples of the next batch of 6-wheel carriages landed, with a Great Central set in the mix.  And... I caved in and ordered some. 
- Then I bought a new tank engine (which arrived today)
- And then I found one of these;



It's not even a Great Central engine.  It's a Midland loco.  But it looks like the sort of thing that the GC would have built, if they took it in mind to put one of their 1890s 4-4-0 designs through a shrink ray.  So on that basis I'm justifying as a what-if flight of imagination.
Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

The Bullet

As promised, some pics of the train.

We have come from this:


to this:


With mounted footrests:


I will add one more lowfit and one more tanker. That should be a believable load for this loco.
If brute force does not work....you´re not using enough of it.

James Harrison

Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

The Bullet

Had a good run at the open day yesterday. Clocked up a few miles.
Driving truck runs well.
I had TIGER and the P3.1 out.
After a light and short rain I felt the difference between TIGER (0-4-2) and P3.1 (2-4-0).
Tiger went uphill like nothing had happened, even accellerating.
P3.1 was prone to slipping. Both locos weigh roughly the same.
Having the heavy parts like Cylinders and smokebox on a driven axle really pays off.

Strange effect:
Tested another variety of coal.
P3.1 had only dust in the ashpan and almost nothing in the smokebox. Tiger also had nothing in the smokebox but the grate was covered by a solid layer of clinker after two hours running.
Had to drop the fire and start again.
Will make a new grate for it with wider spacing between the bars.

The driving truck is now passed for detailling.
(will take a while).
If brute force does not work....you´re not using enough of it.

Madasasteamfish

Well, things here have been a quiet as I focus on prep for the Asylum, but I've been working on some scenic plans for Dukeswood, and have pre-ordered some NCB internal use wagons to stick in a siding, and help the impression of a working colliery.
I made a note in my diary on the way over here. Simply says; "Bugger!"

"DON'T THINK OF IT AS DYING, JUST THINK OF IT AS LEAVING EARLY TO AVOID THE RUSH."

The Bullet

Welded up a new grate for the TIGER.
Can´t wait for a test run to see if the clinker problem is gone now.
If brute force does not work....you´re not using enough of it.

The Bullet

Tested the new grate today.
Tiger runs better, and after more than an hour of continuous running, stopping only for water, there was almost no clinker.
I also need less blower to keep the fire going at standstill.

Test passed.
If brute force does not work....you´re not using enough of it.

James Harrison

Excellent.

Progress here; my Midland Railway 2-4-0 kit arrived.  I've now downloaded the entire back catalogue of the Great Central Railway Society's quarterly magazine (which goes back about 50 years) and I'm slowly ploughing my way through that from Issue 001 to see if anybody has written an article on Parker or Pollitt locomotive design studies.  In an ideal world I'll find evidence that one or the other looked at building an inside cylinder, inside frame 2-4-0....
Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

The Bullet

Two more 3D printed wagons in the workshop:
Another tanker and another Lowfit.

The Lowfit will receive steel axles in order to get enough weight. The tanker will have aluminium axles.
Some small changes/improvements to the old ones.
If brute force does not work....you´re not using enough of it.

The Bullet

After the last fire pump TS 2/5 dating from 1966, the next motor in the workshop belongs to my 5" gauge diesel (loosely based on a class 08 shunter).

It would not run properly, so the carb was cleaned and the ignition timing adjusted.
As it is Sunday I will not fire it up today.
Pics to follow when the shunter is back in working condition.
If brute force does not work....you´re not using enough of it.

James Harrison



Another one of these happened at the local toy train show last weekend.  Or, rather, the bodywork of one did. 

This really crystalises what I want to do, I'm more amenable to butchering some spare parts that cost <£10 than ruining a whole kit that cost somewhat more.  So what I'm going to do is to convert it to one of these...



The big challenge here is the outside frames, the curved running plate, and the coupling rods (which sit outside of the frames).  I think this is one of those where the bits to do all of that will cost more than the loco kit.
Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

The Bullet

Had a good running session today.





The 3D printed Lowfit and tank wagons run well.
TIGER easily copes with the load, even on wet tracks (we had a bit of rain inbetween).
If brute force does not work....you´re not using enough of it.

Madasasteamfish

Well, a slightly odd diversion for me, but I beg your indulgence, as having acquired a volume of Sheffield street scenes I reckon I have discovered the 1st cameo I want to include on Dukeswood, and one which should help promote the 'feel' of a GCR/Midland line in South Yorkshire and help imply Sheffield without actually replicating the city exactly. Specifically, something involving the infamous/legendary 'Tommy Ward's Elephant' as seen here.


Now bear with me whilst I explain the context... Thomas Ward was a Sheffield scrap merchant who during the First World War, (officially) in order to cope with the loss of horses to the war effort, (but also probably as a publicity stunt) hired an elephant from a circus staying in the city to haul one of his wagons around the city. Such was the notoriety of Lizzie (as the elephant was named) the phrase "done up like Tommy Ward's Elephant." entered the local vernacular as a term meaning someone/something loaded with a heavy burden. Obviously its' *technically* outside of my preferred timeframe, but a good local legend deserves to be honoured.
I made a note in my diary on the way over here. Simply says; "Bugger!"

"DON'T THINK OF IT AS DYING, JUST THINK OF IT AS LEAVING EARLY TO AVOID THE RUSH."

Madasasteamfish

So I had an idea for a terrible/ feeble joke, and since I'm nominally an adult/ no-one stopped me... here it is


I may have misunderstood those posters saying "put a tiger in your tank"
I made a note in my diary on the way over here. Simply says; "Bugger!"

"DON'T THINK OF IT AS DYING, JUST THINK OF IT AS LEAVING EARLY TO AVOID THE RUSH."

The Bullet

Feeble Joke? OK, I´m in:

You could easily put that Tiger into my (5" gauge) Tank:


Might just fit into the turret.
If brute force does not work....you´re not using enough of it.

James Harrison

What's that you say, another new loco? 

Yes, yes it is - another Pollitt 4-4-0 is joining the roster.  That makes two of those I've got now (well actually three if you count the one I semi-scratchbuilt out of chunks of other engines).



Very pretty little thing.
Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

The Bullet

There might soon be an addition to my 5" gauge fleet.
As usual, I am looking at a pretty unusual machine.
Watch this space.
If brute force does not work....you´re not using enough of it.

Madasasteamfish

Well some things have happened, and it rather feels like the War Department has taken over here at Orme Works..

I finally got around to finishing off the bodywork for my Robinson 8f/ROD 2-8-0

The chassis is another matter, and will wait until I'm a bit more confident with that side of things and painting will wait until I've been out to get some paints.

I've also taken a step further towards my WD train by finding a supplier of 1:76 scale military vehicles and getting hold of these two Vickers light tanks

and another Valentine (seen here next to a 1:72 version)


Overall I'm not *that* pleased with them, as whilst they're fairly detailed and feel hefty enough to provide some extra weight to a wagon, the material itself is quite brittle, and it was difficult to remove the supports without also breaking off parts of the model with it. This could be a design flaw, or something to do with the material but I'm not familiar enough with 3d printing to be able to confirm. That said, 1:76 is rare enough in wargaming/military modelling that I suspect I may just have to deal with those shortcomings.
I made a note in my diary on the way over here. Simply says; "Bugger!"

"DON'T THINK OF IT AS DYING, JUST THINK OF IT AS LEAVING EARLY TO AVOID THE RUSH."

RJBowman

I've never been very interested in model railroads, but I just found out someone is making kits of Rowland Emmet's trains. Link:

https://youtu.be/PhA_3hQ3kVM?si=167iAwGGcbZjlye_

James Harrison

Quote from: RJBowman on November 05, 2023, 07:08:25 PMI've never been very interested in model railroads, but I just found out someone is making kits of Rowland Emmet's trains. Link:

https://youtu.be/PhA_3hQ3kVM?si=167iAwGGcbZjlye_

I've got one of those, somewhere.
Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

Madasasteamfish

Well my credit card is taking a beating. Having taken delivery of a kit for an MR 3f, and indulging in a retailers pre Christmas sale, hours later, they announce this:
http://www.hattons.co.uk/directory/versiondetails/6305/heljan_oo_gauge_1_76_scale_2_8_0_0_8_2t_class_u1_beyer_garratt_lner

Now, £300+ for a model that's bound to spend most of it's time sat on a shelf (though the high price tag is understandable given that the prototype was a one off and only worked in one VERY specific part of the network) BUT....

I'm tempted to get one because
1. I like my oddities and

2. The one specific part of the rail network the prototype worked IS EXACTLY WHERE I'M MODELLING with Dukeswood!
I made a note in my diary on the way over here. Simply says; "Bugger!"

"DON'T THINK OF IT AS DYING, JUST THINK OF IT AS LEAVING EARLY TO AVOID THE RUSH."

The Bullet

My collection of strange railway contraptions is awaiting a new addition aka 5" gauge winter project 2023.

Pics to follow.
If brute force does not work....you´re not using enough of it.

James Harrison

Quote from: Madasasteamfish on November 17, 2023, 03:32:34 PMWell my credit card is taking a beating. Having taken delivery of a kit for an MR 3f, and indulging in a retailers pre Christmas sale, hours later, they announce this:
http://www.hattons.co.uk/directory/versiondetails/6305/heljan_oo_gauge_1_76_scale_2_8_0_0_8_2t_class_u1_beyer_garratt_lner

Now, £300+ for a model that's bound to spend most of it's time sat on a shelf (though the high price tag is understandable given that the prototype was a one off and only worked in one VERY specific part of the network) BUT....

I'm tempted to get one because
1. I like my oddities and

2. The one specific part of the rail network the prototype worked IS EXACTLY WHERE I'M MODELLING with Dukeswood!

I won't repeat what I said on FB.  Relevant to my interests?  Err, yes.  But happily about 15 years too late to appear on Rufford, so £340 saved there.
Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

Madasasteamfish

Quote from: James Harrison on November 17, 2023, 07:38:39 PM
Quote from: Madasasteamfish on November 17, 2023, 03:32:34 PMWell my credit card is taking a beating. Having taken delivery of a kit for an MR 3f, and indulging in a retailers pre Christmas sale, hours later, they announce this:
http://www.hattons.co.uk/directory/versiondetails/6305/heljan_oo_gauge_1_76_scale_2_8_0_0_8_2t_class_u1_beyer_garratt_lner

Now, £300+ for a model that's bound to spend most of it's time sat on a shelf (though the high price tag is understandable given that the prototype was a one off and only worked in one VERY specific part of the network) BUT....

I'm tempted to get one because
1. I like my oddities and

2. The one specific part of the rail network the prototype worked IS EXACTLY WHERE I'M MODELLING with Dukeswood!

I won't repeat what I said on FB.  Relevant to my interests?  Err, yes.  But happily about 15 years too late to appear on Rufford, so £340 saved there.

You say that now, just wait until you've got your domicile sorted.....
I made a note in my diary on the way over here. Simply says; "Bugger!"

"DON'T THINK OF IT AS DYING, JUST THINK OF IT AS LEAVING EARLY TO AVOID THE RUSH."