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Started by James Harrison, April 28, 2019, 05:13:51 PM

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Madasasteamfish

Well, the postie was kind to me today and delivered me some coaching stocks kits...


The white metal kit is for a LNWR 6 wheel coach and the 3 brass kits are for: a LMS Beer Van, a LNWR 57' brake first coach and a LNWR cattle van....


....I'm really not beating the accusations of trying to back date Dukeswood am I? :-[
I made a note in my diary on the way over here. Simply says; "Bugger!"

"DON'T THINK OF IT AS DYING, JUST THINK OF IT AS LEAVING EARLY TO AVOID THE RUSH."

The Bullet

You might remember the post about my SM32 Lindale "Sam".
The one where wheels and rods had become brittle and turned to dust.
Can you recommend a supplier for cheap light wagons to match this loco?
I am looking for 4 to 5 four-wheelers, preferably kits.
If brute force does not work....you´re not using enough of it.

James Harrison

Quote from: The Bullet on January 30, 2025, 09:07:50 AMYou might remember the post about my SM32 Lindale "Sam".
The one where wheels and rods had become brittle and turned to dust.
Can you recommend a supplier for cheap light wagons to match this loco?
I am looking for 4 to 5 four-wheelers, preferably kits.

It's completely outside my experience, but a few minutes Google search came up with this one:

https://www.platewaymodels.co.uk/shop

By the way, is your loco this one?  https://www.sidestreet.info/locos/loco8.html

Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

The Bullet

Yes, it is the one mentioned on the sidestreetbannerworks page.

Mine is painted.

A very reliable runner.
It also has a second throttle in the exhaust line.
If you balance these two well, the loco runs slowly with enough power and does not run away downhill.
If brute force does not work....you´re not using enough of it.

Madasasteamfish

Quote from: James Harrison on October 25, 2024, 04:28:45 PM
Quote from: James Harrison on September 20, 2024, 06:53:54 PM
Quote from: Madasasteamfish on September 20, 2024, 05:34:15 PMI know myself and Mr Harrison have both seen this announcement, but in the event anyone else has an interest in Britain's pre-grouping railways, there's been an announcement of some more period appropriate coaches

https://rapidotrains.co.uk/evolution-coaches/

Yes, tragically the day after the invoice landed for a set of GCR 6-wheelers I had on order.  Somehow an order for four of these has also gone in.  I suspect it will be a poor month for the house fund.

Two more carriage types have been announced; an all-first and a full brake.  Also, the GCR livery has been revised to the one that suits my 1909-1910-ish era.  Somehow, my pre-order has gone up from four to seven. 

For the house fund, I think I'll be living in a bin for that month. 

And it seems a 2nd batch have been announced, covering even more pre grouping liveries (LSWR, Highland, GER, NER, L&YR Metropolitan to name a few), and I might have seen my way to ordering a set in LMS livery....

At this point I might be just as well be having my wages go straight to them.
I made a note in my diary on the way over here. Simply says; "Bugger!"

"DON'T THINK OF IT AS DYING, JUST THINK OF IT AS LEAVING EARLY TO AVOID THE RUSH."

James Harrison

Quote from: Madasasteamfish on January 31, 2025, 02:29:49 PM
Quote from: James Harrison on October 25, 2024, 04:28:45 PM
Quote from: James Harrison on September 20, 2024, 06:53:54 PM
Quote from: Madasasteamfish on September 20, 2024, 05:34:15 PMI know myself and Mr Harrison have both seen this announcement, but in the event anyone else has an interest in Britain's pre-grouping railways, there's been an announcement of some more period appropriate coaches

https://rapidotrains.co.uk/evolution-coaches/

Yes, tragically the day after the invoice landed for a set of GCR 6-wheelers I had on order.  Somehow an order for four of these has also gone in.  I suspect it will be a poor month for the house fund.

Two more carriage types have been announced; an all-first and a full brake.  Also, the GCR livery has been revised to the one that suits my 1909-1910-ish era.  Somehow, my pre-order has gone up from four to seven. 

For the house fund, I think I'll be living in a bin for that month. 

And it seems a 2nd batch have been announced, covering even more pre grouping liveries (LSWR, Highland, GER, NER, L&YR Metropolitan to name a few), and I might have seen my way to ordering a set in LMS livery....

At this point I might be just as well be having my wages go straight to them.

I came here to goad you with them, but it looks like you've done it to yourself.  I've got about 9 on order from the first batch.
Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

The Bullet

A few pics:





The mighty burner:


Bottom view:


This should give you an idea how wide the loco is in comparison to the tracks.
"normal" narrow gauge wagons look strange behind it.
If brute force does not work....you´re not using enough of it.

James Harrison

A-ha; I see.  It's almost like a model of a miniature railway engine - the overall width is about 3x the track gauge.  They might need scratchbuilding - I'm only aware of kits in smaller scales - but the sort of wagon that Sir Arthur Heywood built for his 15" gauge lines might be suitable?



Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

James Harrison


https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Cq3HFpizO1E

She lives!

Err... not quite.  The motor sparks into life quite happily enough when the battery is put directly on the brushes.  I've even been able to get the wiring from the loco pickups to the motor, successfully. 
Where it all falls down is that when I put the loco on the rails, the motor refuses to turn.  Or, at best, it jerks forward a few millimetres and then stalls. 

My best guess is, judging from the noise when it is running, is that it sorely needs a service and a clean.  You can see on the video it's hardly going flat out, I think it's clean enough to barely work but not do much beyond that.  So I think so far as the motor is concerned my next steps are going to be to carefully disassemble it, clean everything with isopropyl alcohol to get any dirt off, have a good look for any fluff or dust caught in the mechanism and change the brushes.
Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

The Bullet

Did you check if any part of the motor is connected to the chassis?
Maybe the wires from the loco to the tender are crossed and causing a short when you try to run it.

Test: Run it on battery like in the video.
While running, use a piece of wire to connect loco and tender wheels on the dame side of the loco one after the other.
A possible short is easy to find that way.
If brute force does not work....you´re not using enough of it.

James Harrison

The poser deepens.  I took the motor out of the frames, put it on the track and put the battery to it.  And it moved.  Not a lot, and not quickly, but it moved. 

I think I'm going to service it, and see if that improves things.  If not it'll be a case of isolating bits one by one to find a short.
Persons intending to travel by open carriage should select a seat with their backs to the engine, by which means they will avoid the ashes emitted therefrom, that in travelling generally, but particularly through the tunnels, prove a great annoyance; the carriage farthest from the engine will in consequence be found the most desirable.

Sir Henry

Quote from: James Harrison on February 09, 2025, 06:34:18 PMThe poser deepens.  I took the motor out of the frames, put it on the track and put the battery to it.  And it moved.  Not a lot, and not quickly, but it moved. 

I think I'm going to service it, and see if that improves things.  If not it'll be a case of isolating bits one by one to find a short.
So I saw. The youtube algorithm showed me a short of the motor running and I thought "I know that train!" Because I have cookies and everything else turned off and cache cleared when I shut down I can only assume that it was random, an unlikely but cheering accident.

Best of luck finding the problem - something to do with it being on its side so a wire fell back into place, perhaps?
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